Problém s aktualizací

Mám problém s aktualizací Fedory 9. Protože s Fedorou zřejmě budu pracovat ve škole, rozhodl jsem jí nahradit na notebooku Ubuntu. Jenže problém nastal už při prvním kroku po instalaci - aktualizaci systému. Aktualizace neproběhne, vypíše se jen několik chybových hlášení o problémech se závislostmi.
Myslel jsem, že programy jako yum apod. vyřešily problémy se závislotmi a rpm-hell je už jen legendou. Zdá se, že tomu tak není. Nikdy nepochopím, proč se Red Hat konečně nepustí svého za Debianem tak pokulhávajícího systému balíčků. Po této stránce opravdu zlaté Ubuntu. :slight_smile:
Není v mém zájmu znovu přeinstalovávat notebook, proto prosím o radu, jak aktualizaci provést. Zřejmě bude potřeba sem hodit více informací, ale netuším, co je potřeba, aby mi někdo mohl poradit.

Předem díky,
nováček mezi uživateli Fedory, Vratislav Podzimek

Jsou potřeba ty chybové hlášení bez těch Vám nikdo neporadí.Zkuste aktualizovat přes terminal yum update a hoďte sem výpis.Někdy chybí v repozitářích některý balíček a stačí třeba den počkat. Stává se to třeba při instalaci nového jádra , kdy na livně chybí ještě ovladač grafiky pro dané jádro.

Jak pise vaca: yum update z terminalu a prekopirovat sem chyby - tedy pokud ti ty chyby uz sami nereknou co je spatne.

Co se tyce yum versus apt je to vzdy horke tema a pokud chci od nekoho radu, je lepsi nepichat do vosiho hnizda, zvlast kdyz o danem tematu mnoho nevim. Az bude ubuntu provade behem jednoho zivotniho cylku tolik aktualizaci jako Fedora, jiste se dockate i s apt podobnych radosti jako v Debian unstable. Krom toho vam tez preji prijemny update 300 balicku s apt, kdyz se vas kazdy 20 zepta “ano/ne/chci prohlednou konfigurak”.

Vypadá to asi tahle.

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mono-addins-0.3.1-2.fc10.i386 from rawhide has depsolving problems
–> Missing Dependency: mono(glib-sharp) = 2.12.0.0 is needed by package mono-addins-0.3.1-2.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
tomboy-0.11.0-4.fc10.i386 from rawhide has depsolving problems
–> Missing Dependency: mono(gdk-sharp) = 2.12.0.0 is needed by package tomboy-0.11.0-4.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
f-spot-0.4.3.1-2.fc10.i386 from rawhide has depsolving problems
–> Missing Dependency: mono(gconf-sharp) = 2.16.0.0 is needed by package f-spot-0.4.3.1-2.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
tomboy-0.11.0-4.fc10.i386 from rawhide has depsolving problems
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f-spot-0.4.3.1-2.fc10.i386 from rawhide has depsolving problems
–> Missing Dependency: mono(gtkhtml-sharp) = 2.16.0.0 is needed by package f-spot-0.4.3.1-2.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
f-spot-0.4.3.1-2.fc10.i386 from rawhide has depsolving problems
–> Missing Dependency: mono(gtk-sharp) = 2.12.0.0 is needed by package f-spot-0.4.3.1-2.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
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–> Missing Dependency: librpm-4.4.so is needed by package 1:net-snmp-5.4.1-19.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
mono-addins-0.3.1-2.fc10.i386 from rawhide has depsolving problems
–> Missing Dependency: mono(pango-sharp) = 2.12.0.0 is needed by package mono-addins-0.3.1-2.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
f-spot-0.4.3.1-2.fc10.i386 from rawhide has depsolving problems
–> Missing Dependency: mono(glade-sharp) = 2.12.0.0 is needed by package f-spot-0.4.3.1-2.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
1:net-snmp-libs-5.4.1-19.fc10.i386 from rawhide has depsolving problems
–> Missing Dependency: librpmio-4.4.so is needed by package 1:net-snmp-libs-5.4.1-19.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
f-spot-0.4.3.1-2.fc10.i386 from rawhide has depsolving problems
–> Missing Dependency: mono(gdk-sharp) = 2.12.0.0 is needed by package f-spot-0.4.3.1-2.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
gdb-6.8-15.fc10.i386 from rawhide has depsolving problems
–> Missing Dependency: librpm-4.4.so is needed by package gdb-6.8-15.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
mono-addins-0.3.1-2.fc10.i386 from rawhide has depsolving problems
–> Missing Dependency: mono(gtk-sharp) = 2.12.0.0 is needed by package mono-addins-0.3.1-2.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
1:net-snmp-5.4.1-19.fc10.i386 from rawhide has depsolving problems
–> Missing Dependency: librpmio-4.4.so is needed by package 1:net-snmp-5.4.1-19.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
tomboy-0.11.0-4.fc10.i386 from rawhide has depsolving problems
–> Missing Dependency: mono(glib-sharp) = 2.12.0.0 is needed by package tomboy-0.11.0-4.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
gdb-6.8-15.fc10.i386 from rawhide has depsolving problems
–> Missing Dependency: librpmdb-4.4.so is needed by package gdb-6.8-15.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
gnome-sharp-2.20.0-2.fc10.i386 from rawhide has depsolving problems
–> Missing Dependency: mono(glade-sharp) = 2.12.0.0 is needed by package gnome-sharp-2.20.0-2.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
gmime-sharp-2.2.21-1.fc10.i386 from rawhide has depsolving problems
–> Missing Dependency: mono(glib-sharp) = 2.12.0.0 is needed by package gmime-sharp-2.2.21-1.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
gnome-sharp-2.20.0-2.fc10.i386 from rawhide has depsolving problems
–> Missing Dependency: mono(gdk-sharp) = 2.12.0.0 is needed by package gnome-sharp-2.20.0-2.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
f-spot-0.4.3.1-2.fc10.i386 from rawhide has depsolving problems
–> Missing Dependency: mono(gnome-sharp) = 2.16.0.0 is needed by package f-spot-0.4.3.1-2.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
gnome-sharp-2.20.0-2.fc10.i386 from rawhide has depsolving problems
–> Missing Dependency: mono(pango-sharp) = 2.12.0.0 is needed by package gnome-sharp-2.20.0-2.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
gnome-sharp-2.20.0-2.fc10.i386 from rawhide has depsolving problems
–> Missing Dependency: mono(gtk-sharp) = 2.12.0.0 is needed by package gnome-sharp-2.20.0-2.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
1:net-snmp-libs-5.4.1-19.fc10.i386 from rawhide has depsolving problems
–> Missing Dependency: librpm-4.4.so is needed by package 1:net-snmp-libs-5.4.1-19.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
f-spot-0.4.3.1-2.fc10.i386 from rawhide has depsolving problems
–> Missing Dependency: mono(pango-sharp) = 2.12.0.0 is needed by package f-spot-0.4.3.1-2.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
f-spot-0.4.3.1-2.fc10.i386 from rawhide has depsolving problems
–> Missing Dependency: mono(glib-sharp) = 2.12.0.0 is needed by package f-spot-0.4.3.1-2.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
gnome-sharp-2.20.0-2.fc10.i386 from rawhide has depsolving problems
–> Missing Dependency: mono(glib-sharp) = 2.12.0.0 is needed by package gnome-sharp-2.20.0-2.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
Error: Missing Dependency: mono(gconf-sharp) = 2.16.0.0 is needed by package f-spot-0.4.3.1-2.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
Error: Missing Dependency: mono(gtk-sharp) = 2.12.0.0 is needed by package mono-addins-0.3.1-2.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
Error: Missing Dependency: mono(gtk-sharp) = 2.12.0.0 is needed by package f-spot-0.4.3.1-2.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
Error: Missing Dependency: mono(gdk-sharp) = 2.12.0.0 is needed by package tomboy-0.11.0-4.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
Error: Missing Dependency: mono(glib-sharp) = 2.12.0.0 is needed by package f-spot-0.4.3.1-2.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
Error: Missing Dependency: mono(glib-sharp) = 2.12.0.0 is needed by package gnome-sharp-2.20.0-2.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
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Error: Missing Dependency: mono(gtkhtml-sharp) = 2.16.0.0 is needed by package f-spot-0.4.3.1-2.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
Error: Missing Dependency: librpmio-4.4.so is needed by package 1:net-snmp-5.4.1-19.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
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Error: Missing Dependency: mono(gdk-sharp) = 2.12.0.0 is needed by package f-spot-0.4.3.1-2.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
Error: Missing Dependency: mono(pango-sharp) = 2.12.0.0 is needed by package tomboy-0.11.0-4.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
Error: Missing Dependency: mono(gnome-sharp) = 2.16.0.0 is needed by package f-spot-0.4.3.1-2.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
Error: Missing Dependency: librpmio-4.4.so is needed by package 1:net-snmp-libs-5.4.1-19.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
Error: Missing Dependency: mono(glib-sharp) = 2.12.0.0 is needed by package mono-addins-0.3.1-2.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
Error: Missing Dependency: librpm-4.4.so is needed by package 1:net-snmp-5.4.1-19.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
Error: Missing Dependency: mono(glade-sharp) = 2.12.0.0 is needed by package f-spot-0.4.3.1-2.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
Error: Missing Dependency: librpm-4.4.so is needed by package gdb-6.8-15.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
Error: Missing Dependency: mono(gtk-sharp) = 2.12.0.0 is needed by package tomboy-0.11.0-4.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
Error: Missing Dependency: mono(pango-sharp) = 2.12.0.0 is needed by package mono-addins-0.3.1-2.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
Error: Missing Dependency: mono(gdk-sharp) = 2.12.0.0 is needed by package gnome-sharp-2.20.0-2.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
Error: Missing Dependency: mono(gnome-vfs-sharp) = 2.16.0.0 is needed by package f-spot-0.4.3.1-2.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
Error: Missing Dependency: mono(pango-sharp) = 2.12.0.0 is needed by package gnome-sharp-2.20.0-2.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
Error: Missing Dependency: mono(gdk-sharp) = 2.12.0.0 is needed by package mono-addins-0.3.1-2.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
Error: Missing Dependency: mono(gtk-sharp) = 2.12.0.0 is needed by package gnome-sharp-2.20.0-2.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
Error: Missing Dependency: mono(pango-sharp) = 2.12.0.0 is needed by package f-spot-0.4.3.1-2.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
Error: Missing Dependency: librpm-4.4.so is needed by package 1:net-snmp-libs-5.4.1-19.fc10.i386 (rawhide)
Error: Missing Dependency: librpmdb-4.4.so is needed by package gdb-6.8-15.fc10.i386 (rawhide)

Nechtěl jsem píchat do vosího hnízda,ale vážně mi neleze do hlavy, proč aktualizace a instalace nových balíčků je u rpm takový problém, když u deb to vypadá všechno tak jednoduše. Na konfiguráky se apt ani neptá, ale to je jedno. Jen z mého uživatelského pohledu se opravdu nabízí otázka, proč Red Hat nepřejde též k deb, nebo alespoň nedosáhne stejné úrovně. Možná již dosáhl a já mám jen smůlu na nevhodný okamžik aktualizace. To však sám nedokáži posoudit.
Trochu mě překvapil i počet aktualizací - 616 aktualizací, když jsem instalační DVD stahoval 2 dny předtím? To se neaktualizují obrazy instalačního DVD, nebo je tolik aktualizací za posledních několik dnů? Děkuji za informace, hodně mi pomáhají s migrací :slight_smile:

to se ani nedivím . instaloval jste opravdu F9 nebo rawhide verzi? pokud F9 tak máte zapnutý repozitář vývojové verze fedory. vypnete editaci souboru.
V konzoli jako root gedit /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-rawhide.repo
a řadek enabled=1 změnte na enabled=0. Standartně je po instalaci vypnutý.
Pokud jste instaloval rawhide verzi tak pak přeinstalovat na F9.

Instaloval jsem F9, ale v zapnul jsem si i repozitář Rawhide. Netušil jsem, že jde o repozitář vývojové verze, myslel jsem, že jde o repozitář nesvobodných věcí jako jsou kodeky, java, flash apod.
Mnohokrát děkuji za bleskovou pomoc, snad se již aktualizace zdaří.

Tak už je vše v pořádku, několik dalších aktualizací proběhlo bez problémů. Jinak opravdu klobouk dolů před Fedorou, především před její rychlostí :slight_smile: